Tom

It seems to be the consensus of the members of this form that C-Max mileage improves as the gasoline engine wares in. Mileage figures to achieve this vary. I don't think there is any way to know how many miles are on the ICE alone since the mileage figures on the instrument panel include both ICE and EV operation. Is there an accepted percentage range that one can use to deduce the EV portion?

Further Adventures with Leaf Debris: After cleaning out the accumulation this morning, I placed a strong flash light directly over the weep hole to try to determine where the water goes? Turns out that it goes into the engine area just below the plastic hinge pockets! So, pending a discussion with mt Ford dealer's service department, I don't see why the weep holes can't be enlarged enough to allow leaf debris, etc. to wash on through and out?

I was washing my C-Max this morning and checked the lift gate drainage holes: two were taped-which I removed.

While the foam pipe insulator works when used, for me at least, I don't use it except at home, overnight, etc. When I take the C-Max out for various short trips I don't bother to replace the pipe insulators on the windshield area and this sometimes results in leaf infiltration. In taking a closer look at the hinge pockets that retain fallen leaves, they are plastic. So I'm wondering if the weep holes can be enlarged so that leaf debris would just wash on through and out? Not sure what's underneath the pockets that might prevent this solution -- if anything? Any further thoughts?

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Pipe insulation is working fine. I think it's the answer. If you want to try it, get the one inch size.

Bill-N, I want to thank you for you suggestion. I bought some 1 inch X 3 feet pipe insulation today and it is far superior to the pool noodle. Much easier to install and fills the gap the pool noodle didn't. Tom

Dave, Went out this morning to find that the portions of the noodle, as attached to the hood, beyond the top (longer) windshield wiper blade and arm allowed leaves into the engine compartment because there was a gap between the bottom of the noodle and the windshield. I have attempted to remedy this by removing the portions of the noodle beyond the wiper arm and blade from the hood and just tucking the noodle in between the roof of the hood and the windshield glass. Seems to provide a tight fit so I expect this approach will work better. Will let you know. The suggestion above about pipe insulation is also one I want to follow up on. May be the answer to the fitting-the-noodle-on the-hood-edge which, so far, is a pain. Tom

Dave, I put the pool noodle on today. The way I did it was to cut one side of the noodle lengthwise to fit onto the following edge of the hood. Then I made several short cuts across the the lengthwise cut a each end so that the noodle will bend following the curve of the hood at each side. This works for attachment. The noodle lies above the windshield wipers so no potential damage there. Putting it on is somewhat laborious -- not as much as cleaning out the hing pockets. Perhaps the noodle will soften up with use. My first idea was to attach the noodle, using a somewhat shorter lengthwise cut, to the top (longer) windshield wiper arm but opted for the approach described above instead. Will let you know how well it works after today's gift from the trees. Tom

It was suggested elsewhere in this form that a pool noddle could be used to keep stuff from falling out of the back area when the lift gate is opened. This may also work to stop leaf debris/snow/etc. from falling into the engine area between the hood and the windshield? Has anyone tried it?

If you set your temp selector below the outside air temp with the AC off and recycle air off, I believe you get outside air only. The fan speed can then be controlled with the fan speed buttons.

Dave, Looking forward to learning how it works for you. Good luck! Tom

Here's what I got back from the company: 01:00:42 PM [Tom] 2013 Ford C-Max's have a design problem that your snow screen may address. The gap between the windshield and the hood allows leaves to enter where they accumulate in the "pockets" that the hood hinges occupy when the hood is down. When a quantity of leaves accumulates, the drain holes are blocked. Would your snow screen prevent this? 01:02:41 PM [Kevin A.] Welcome to AutoAnything. My name is Kevin A. I have no way of knowing that. 01:02:53 PM [Kevin A.] That is not the purpose of this product. 01:04:43 PM [Tom] Does your product cover the gap between the windshield and the hood? Can it be attached to do so? 01:05:20 PM [Kevin A.] No, it is only made to cover the windshield to keep snow off. 01:05:36 PM [Tom] Thank you. Any other ideas out there? Tom

Any chance Ford will rewrite the owner's manual in 2014 to make it more user useful?

Also, if I may piggyback on this question, any other downside losses such as diminished AC, etc.?

Now 51. Car is driven conservatively and seems to reflect that in ever-better MPG.

Is Ford offering the update to improve engineering or to fight the lawsuits? I'm getting good mpg now and plan to wait to see what the downside is -- if any.

41.0 @ 3,938.0 miles. No software update.

ETIS is not on the list of acronyms. Please define. Thanks.

I just drove to Hagerstown, Md. and back to Bethesda, Md., a distance of 120 miles. Got 49.5 MPG with AC running all of the time. My question is: Will the computer update improve my city millage? I have seen comments on the frorm to the effect that the update is only for highway millage.

I agree! Nsteblay, have you had all the updates and, if so, what do you think of them?

Amend!

This has been bothering me also. Since Ford is doing a major recall that is suppose to fix the problem, why don't they wait to see if in fact their adjustments work?

I agree with your sentiments. I'd rather have the value of the "compensation" in Ford stock.

What is the SA? Couldn't find it in the acronyms.