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You probably just duplicated the EPA test conditions. Prior to the current EPA test methodolgy their previous test process yielded unrealitically high mpg numbers and was revised to its current state. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ratings2008.shtml

Congrats and welcome, best source on the web for C-Max tips and tricks is this forum.

Hello and welcome. Good choice with the Energi. Did you check out the video I posted with Energi details?

Wecome to the club, I too own a Subaru Outback. Test drove the new Subaru Impreza hatch but it didn't have the power or features we wanted. Are you keeping the Outback?

I have tried the climate trick too and it works well. I have a several blocks through a school zone before I hit the main highway. With the climate on from a cold start the engines sits and idles trying to warm the cabin.

Not certain what the battery charge state was in either of the tests. The electric motors additional 112lbs of torque could easily push it down into the 7s with a full charge.

Insideline quotes the 0-60 at 8.1 about the same as our Golf TDI. They also quote C-Max skidpad at .75g but I read one review that with TC off its .77g. Those numbers seem right too. http://www.insideline.com/ford/c-max-hybrid/2013/2013-ford-c-max-hybrid-full-test-and-video.html

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100287269 Don't Expect Ford Sales to Fall Both the Fusion Hybrid and the C-Max Hybrid are building momentum in a market dominated by the Toyota Prius Line-up. Ford has sold 10,856 Fusion Hybrids this year and 8,999 C-Max Hybrids. Those pale compared to Prius sales of 216,619 according to the research firm AutoData. So how much could this dispute hurt hybrid sales at Ford? In my opinion it's not likely to have a big impact. I base that opinion on the reaction to the Hyundai having to lower the fuel economy claims of several models including the red-hot Elantra. In the auto world it was a big story. In the real world it did little to dent sales. In fact, last month Hyundai grew sales by 4.7 percent. In 2012, Hyundai has set a new record for U.S. sales (643,572) and it still has one month left to increase those record results. Car buyers do care about mileage. Yes, some may decide not to buy the Fusion and C-Max hybrid because the Consumer Reports claims, but I think most who are interested in these models will still buy them.

Have you tried this one? http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4481849&postcount=10 Finally, a solution that worked. Quote: Originally Posted by ZOlson View Post To all posts about sync not working. I pulled the fuse for sync according to my manual. I turned on the car and left it on for 3-5 minutes. Turned the car off, put the fuse back in, and now it works. This was the only place where I found a succinct conversation and solution. I read several recommendations elsewhere about disconnecting the battery but thought better of it. However, I did remove the fuse for 15+ minutes after trying that first for about 2 minutes. Nothing helped until I read this post about turning the car on w/o the Sync fuse installed. It Worked! Thanks.

I can understand your frustration, but you are still better off with the C-Max. I traded a Jetta TDI for my C-Max due to high pressure fuel pump failures that are numbering in the 1000's. The Golf TDI you were considering is seeing those same issues, just lookup TDI HPFP. The Passat TDI that I current own has a completely different fuel system and even gets the Consumer Reports highly recommend status. So if you decide to go diesel the Passat TDI is the way to go for now.

I always get people slowing down to take a look when driving my daily commute.

Thanks for the link, definately covers all the details. Did anyone notice the 0-60 times in the 7s? I thought they made a mistake until the guy mentioned it in the video.

I would like to know the test temperatures that these sources used? Without that parameter the test results are almost meaningless. If they test a Prius for example at 70 degrees and then test the C-Max in the 30's the margin of error will change with the test parameter. Keep in mind Ford publishes EPA test results and markets based on that data. If their test process is flawed as in Hyundai then they will need to make corrections and restate. If the EPA test doesn't reflect the real world thats a seperate issue. As far as being honest with consumers goes remember when Toyota was fined and the CEO hauled before congress for concealing safety defects. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-04-19/toyota-fined-177m-for-hiding-safety-defect/401654

Curious why you didn't opt for a diesel with the type of driving you do? I regularly exceed EPA ratings in my Passat TDI and I can hit the highway rated 40+ mpg @ 70.

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Been a Consumer Reports subscriber for years and very familiar with their ratings, they are not 100% accurate. Owned several Toyotas and my 2006 Lexus IS was the worst most problematic recalled car I have ever owned. Both Toyota and Honda are in a race to see who can recall the most cars this year; http://www.nbcnews.com/business/toyota-hold-worlds-biggest-car-recall-16-years-1C6374378

Fixed the link, good video.

Engadget and a Ford engineer walk through different functions of the Energi. http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/13/ford-c-max-energi-test-drive/

Some of the articles take the low side of the numbers posted to make the case for the article while ignoring higher scores. The impressions they are trying to make is there is no one getting EPA and that is not true. I look forward to the EPA retest, they already tested the Energi with 200lbs heavier batteries and still beat the Consumer Reports findings. I think they may lower the highway rating but most hybrids I have driven inflate that number. If you understand physics there is no possible way you can carry hybrid batteries, motors, and support systems to achieve the same economy as city driving. Most highway energy is expended overcoming rolling and wind resistance, diesel is your best option for pure highway driving. A gallon of diesel starts with 10% more energy by volume/weight than gasoline and the combustion process is more complete. My Passat TDI has electric heat in the cabin because the engine is so efficient there is little waste heat left over for climate control. VW's new EA288 TDI will be even 30% more efficient than the current models but you need it to make up for the fuel costs.

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I noticed most of the major pubs including Consumer Reports referenced each other to support their view resulting in a circular reference. They picked data from this site, fuelly, and fueleconomy.gov and ignored data that contradicted the foregone conclusions.

Thanks, I have only tried this descending interstate bridges (Texas version of a hill).

The tach only exists as part of a My View configuration. I have the Tach and Temp on mine.

I think you description is correct, you can confirm this by watching your tach and engaging hill assist during a descent. This is what I have observed.

Cool, I haven't seen any other C-Maxs in Plano but according to cars.com inventory they are flying off the lots.