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    • I just purchased a 2015 C-Max Energi SEL.  Is there an easy way to determine if I have a 3G or 4G modem?  Thanks!
    • Greetings!  Just purchased a 2015 C-Max Energi SEL and glad to be here!  Will have lots of questions at first and hope to contribute once I learn more about the C-Max.
    • hello everybody, i m new here and thankyou to have accepted me in your forum😀
    • The car companies are panicing because EVs have much lower repair costs than ICE vehicles, so they see the dealer+shop incomes drop accordingly, and they're reworking the warranties to keep them profitable.
    • You can I believe reset the Lifetime numbers.  I think I did that when I first got my 2013 Hybrid.  
    • Thanks for your reply cr08.  You prompted me to re-check the Life Time MPG thread where I thought that I had seen others here posting EV distances well over 100 000 but now I realize that everyone else's EV distances also stop at 99 999.9.  I need new glasses.   Strange that Ford seems to have designed it that way.
    • Likely the number is just maxed out and won't move any further. Not too surprising. There should be an option in the menus to reset the lifetime stats here and start over so it can accumulate once again. But then you'd have to keep external track of these previous numbers if that matters to you.   Also I wouldn't be too surprised to see 99.9% of the vehicle used in EV only operation. There were some members here early on who were REALLY particular about only operating in EV mode. I can't honestly think of any other explanation why the lifetime summary would show these numbers and not be legitimate. Even though this vehicle really isn't designed to be a full EV, it doesn't stop some from operating as such.
    • Does anyone else have a Distance EV number that does not move?
    • I know some are allergic to anything political related these days, but time to write your congresscritters and probably can't hurt to write to the CARB as well (California Air Resources Board. They have a LOT of pull as well with this kind of stuff and arguably keeping more cars on the road longer without being financially totalled and scrapped is beneficial to overall air quality/emissions/etc..). About the only way you're getting that done.   I agree 100% though that the basic 'bumper to bumper warranties' need to be increased to combat the higher repair costs especially as more safety features are mandated (something I'm personally all for but I do understand and sympathize with the added cost arguments). Or maybe something that would be more feasible is enforce a dedicated warranty for said safety features that goes to that 5-10 year/100-150k mile area).
    • It's because on these early vehicles (ie: ANY C-Max or Fusion Hybrid/Energi up until the final model years before the new vehicles like the Escape/Maverick/Mach-E/Lightning/etc took over) they are not warrantied for any level of degradation. Per Ford's own legalese as long as the car drives, it's functioning as intended no matter how bad the battery is degraded.   It's not surprising seeing these low 'range' numbers on these early model years especially if they've been through a few owners and racked up the miles. If the car was just driven like a normal car in that time without any care taken towards the battery, this is what you can expect. The charge time the OP mentioned is also not unexpected as a result. My 2013 with around ~3.5kwh capacity remaining usually only takes about 4 hours at L1 for a full charge vs the original ~6 hours.   Ultimately Ford left some big loopholes in the programming of various systems in these vehicles allowing owners to easily degrade the battery if they just drive as-is. There are a number of voluntary precautions one can take to better manage it like not using EV mode on the highway, monitoring battery temp and keeping it in check, limiting power draw, etc.. (Now that I'm thinking about it, I don't think there's any concise list of recommended steps online that might be worth working on)   That all said, I'll use the same boilerplate response to these types of posts: The miles of range is merely an estimate or guess and can vary wildly depending on various conditions like previous driving behaviors, ambient temp, HVAC use, etc.. If you want an insight into the TRUE battery capacity remaining, the following test needs to be done:   1) Fully charge the car to 100% 2) Drive in EV mode only, avoiding anything that can start the ICE like highway driving or cabin heat usage. If the ICE starts during the trip, the test is immediately invalidated. 3) Drive until the plug-in charge is depleted and it drops back to hybrid operation. 4) Safely stop the car (or use one of the trip meters but make sure to reset it before this test) and shut it off. The trip summary will list the kwh used.   Brand new from the factory plug-in capacity is 5.5kwh. Above 4.0kwh is still in good territory.
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